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Flight News Updates Now Available: The P-40!

Famous for its “shark mouth” paint jobs, the P-40 was one of the most popular Allied fighter planes in WWII. This classic aircraft’s agility makes it ideal for tests of maneuverability such as collecting Aerocaches. The version in Microsoft Flight is the P-40B, with a 1000 HP in-line V-12 engine and a top speed of over 300 knots. No cockpit view is included.

The P-40 is available in our Marketplace: https://microsoftflight.com/en-us/marketplace/#5 

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BlamefulPanda11
April 25, 2012 2:37 PM

No cockpit, no thanks, no cash.

nomex31
April 25, 2012 2:44 PM

What what in the b... !!! Bahhhhhhhhhhh. Ignorant Flight Team.

SloppierTax537
April 25, 2012 2:45 PM

LOL....No comment....

youretoman69
April 25, 2012 3:00 PM

I really do not like the way all of  these websites say FREE-FREE-FREE then you download i

the product and thy deck you with a charge......

IT IS NOT REALLY FAIR TO THOSE WHO ARE ON A FIXED INCOME ! ! !

Dave F.

etoman69@hotmail.com

MoneyWonder
April 25, 2012 3:06 PM

Will this aircraft be available to purchase on steam?

JP1018ROCKS
April 25, 2012 3:28 PM

I feel like vomiting!

AproposMonk3
April 25, 2012 3:37 PM

Microsoft, I feel that you have done a great job with this game, and i find it pefectly understanable that you cannot put a cockpit on such a rare, and hard to access aircraft. i however feel that you still need to add more GA aircraft, but im sure that you will. Great job with the GA aircraft that you have made so far, keep up the great work. finally do not ever put guns on these classic warbirds, that would ruin the game entirely, dont listen to the little kids begging for guns, and glory.

x Ishmal x
April 25, 2012 3:42 PM

Follow this path, in a month uninstall.

FlyingVomito
April 25, 2012 3:56 PM

Pffffffffffff ... no more to say ...

Macw0lf
April 25, 2012 4:30 PM

Pity, I would have enjoyed this one. But no cockpit = no interest.

I'm confused.. Reading through all the feedback, this move seems suicidal to the game... 3 similar warbird aircraft with no cockpits..?

Is there another forum somewhere else where MS is actually providing feedback and talking to its customers? On steam or somewhere? I don't understand the radio silence from MS around this product!?!?

TheProfiFlyer
April 25, 2012 4:36 PM

Please with cockpit ...

crap...

RoboRay
April 25, 2012 4:39 PM

No cockpits make Baby Jesus cry.

PTAPB
April 25, 2012 4:45 PM

I can not believe. The MS Flight Team did not really listen to customers. Another aircraft without cockpit.

MindEraser88
April 25, 2012 4:45 PM

Worst game development team ever. Done playing flight. You guys are downright horrible.

MindEraser88
April 25, 2012 4:47 PM

If enough of us get together we can arrange away to get or money back. They obviously fooled us into  thinking this game was gonna be good. Now the game is all about ww2 with no cockpits. How stupid.

tishin
April 25, 2012 4:48 PM

@AproposMonk3

They dont need access to the aircraft to be able to make a VC. There is more than enough archived material and footage of these old warbirds for Microsoft to more than accurately model a useable cockpit. I mean what can be harder than providing a throttle, prop pitch and mixuture controls. A stick and rudder pedals. An ASI, VSI, altimeter, magnetic compass, turn and slip indicator and a tatty texture to make it look authentic. You would have thought by now that MS would have listened to the feedback from its users and started producing these models with VCs. I do agree though I would prefer to see some more GA machines and less of these warbirds. As nice as they are to see they still are not useable for any of the in game jobs, i.e frieght, charter flight or so on. This will now be the second aircraft in a row that i will not be handing over my money for.

Disappointed

T4AILDR4GGER
April 25, 2012 4:50 PM

wow..... just wow, I've pretty much given up on flight. Please, please, please listen to us, were not the enemy all we really want is a new aircraft with a COCKPIT!

StratoArt
April 25, 2012 4:53 PM

Thank you! you guys did a great job modeling the aircraft. It will be fun to fly.

anwak
April 25, 2012 4:58 PM

Dear Microsoft,

When you first announced Flight, I was dreaming a lot of ideas about how a "fun" flying game just next to my "hard core" simulation FSX could look like. I liked the idea of a more relaxed approach to the "flying experience", and especially understood the necessity to re-new the interface which in general I like a lot in the present form, especially the mouse control. Nevertheless, for me, the experience of flying takes essentially place in a cockpit, as everything else I can "experience" in real on an airport; so even in my wildest dreams I never ever imagined a game airplane without cockpit...

If this is supposed to be a Flight game

-why can't I have fun watching impressive crashes and explosions with some destruction model at least for the planes?

-why can't I review and save my best landings, stunts, moments?

-why can I collect aerocaches but not knowledge-caches linked to wikipedia informations or Live-caches linked to photos, videos and other content created by other Flight pilots?

-why aren't there any co-pilot models in the planes when I can clearly hear them speaking? You have the models as they appear in the cut scenes, so why not simply glue them next to me, at least in the outside views? Also, is it a bug that I never find any of these boxes in my plane when I transport them? It's just a cube??!

-even if I don't see any reason how (computer or human) air traffic control could destroy the Game character of Flight, why isn't there at least the option to buy an ATC Add-On - even just the old FSX or 2002 version?

-why can't I find a map in the cockpit map holder or somewhere else directly in the game? It's not too large anyway and could easily fit over the useless communication panel. Why are there many many other things so lazy implemented?

I was happy to see the idea realized to be able to leave the cockpit and walk around the scenery - but, honestly, why is the (dynamic) ground scenery so far behind standard? If you just remember that Microsoft's Flight branch was once an official benchmark! I even thought that walking around would be combined with a plane selection simply in the Flight world itself - you leave the cockpit (haha), walk into the nearest hangar (watching other players and planes moving around), jump into the next plane (or buy it directly there if you don't own it yet) and continue flying...

I even envisioned a (world) scenery based on Streetside ("The true-to-life experience for explorers everywhere" :-) with map textures loaded on-the-fly - simply a real flying game version of the Google Earth flight simulator, possibly with different layers, even "social-network-layers"... But at least I expected to have (optionally) the possibility to experience flying and landing in whatever part of the world I want and not just on a few selected islands with the only hope on an Alaska DLC in the next future when for the moment I don't see any reason why I would like to fly there...

In summary, what you, Microsoft, delivered so far, especially considering the time passing, is far behind my even most basic expectations and simply disappointing, overpriced and presumably insufficient to keep my interest and support for Flight any

longer... For everybody who enjoys Flight I really recommend to download and test the demo of Flight simulator X as except for a more serious interface and no aerochaches so far (addon?) one can have the same fun with missions and tutorials in a much greater variety and extend (e.g. >10,000 airports) with it.

MindEraser88
April 25, 2012 5:02 PM

Everyone go leave a bad metacritic user review, if enough of us do it they will have no choice but to listen.

gkoriski
April 25, 2012 5:08 PM

If there's No VC, You didn't make it for me.

Yet another pretty model that will remain in the hanger.

And a little reminder, TrackIR support is still in need.

Tony0972
April 25, 2012 5:10 PM

I think it's great. Thank you for the P-40!

I promise not to get upset when you start releasing general aviation air craft instead of warbirds. :-)

Vespa7
April 25, 2012 5:24 PM

:-( I really don't understand...

SantiTorres1966
April 25, 2012 5:33 PM

NO COCKPIT, NO MONEY

DaughterCub22
April 25, 2012 5:37 PM

I watched all steps of the development of MS Flight, from the period the development team got 're-organised' (read: sacked) because of too little income that Microsoft Flight Simulator raised....the first announcements on the internet telling us the development team will get back together and develop a flying game from the ground up... the first sneak peeks that appeared online...beta testing Flight... to feeling extremely dissapointed about this game.  Previously the development team was able to come up with a nice flight simulator every couple of years, which was always a large improvement from previous versions. It seems to me there is a severe lack of marketing and PR professionals in the team.

I understand just a sim is not worth it, but you have created this beautiful environment; why head into a direction an important part of your constituency does'n't want it to go? By now, you could easily make various categories of Flight. If 10 year old's want to shoot each other out of the sky; let them. If other people want to do some serious simming; let them! I mentioned it a long time ago.. switching back and forth is the way to go.. Of course, I would like to shoot down some planes.. but I also want to fly a big jet I see flying high above my house.

Flying games like this will always be about the temporarily illusion or fantasy about being able to fly and do stuff a normal airliner should/can not. Moreover, compared to high-end multibillion dollar shooters and so on, Flight sim has a extremely vibrant and active community of real people getting together in real hangars.. showing of their home-built contraptions they use at home to other enthusiasts.

Hence, go commercial for the rookie-2-month-fun masses, go sound and solid for the veterans; using the same environment. I might sound like grumpy old FS veteran, but I am 26 years old having enjoyed flight simulators or other good flying games since I was 11. However, I might just loose my appetite. Or in the famous Cartmanian words: "you are breaking my balls". Please, just call human resource and ask for a top notch PR/Marketing expert. The stupid nonsense about 'we cannot please everyone' is a bullshit argument; you haven't even tried!

Vespa7
April 25, 2012 5:48 PM

The ratio between value and money is the worst I have ever seen... the next step will be a 4$ airplane without exterior view???

I cannot think that you really love flight...I can't believe it...you must be kidding me

Turn10 loves cars and watch what they have done with Forza

another example?

777studios loves planes and watch what they have done with Rise of Flight

It seems that the only thing you love is money... bah

Bazwelle43
April 25, 2012 5:51 PM

No cockpit, No purchase!

Bought everything so far except the Zero because it doesn't have a cockpit, the P51 doesn't either but it came with the steam bundle.

I always thought that money talks....doesn't seem to be the case here so far!

EastCoastGuy
April 25, 2012 5:57 PM

No cockpit, no interest.  I'll be looking forward to better content.  I hope Alaska has good things?

IT Shark 74
April 25, 2012 6:05 PM

Ah ok, next airplane is 3D VAL and Kate for Pearl Harbour Attack! But this is Microsoft Flight or Microsoft COMBAT FLIGHT IV?

Sorry, but for this game the best is: WORLD OF WARPLANES (TOTAL FREE!)

http://na.worldofwarplanes.com/

SkookumFist
April 25, 2012 6:15 PM

Wow, wonder how many levels I'll gain with this puppy, oh, that's right, I maxed my experience and got all gold on the challenges the first week.  That's some seriously poor "game" design.  Cup and Ball is better game design than that.

It's not a sim, it's not really a game, it's more of a empty, empty demo.

As for the lack of acceptable new DLC, I think I'll probably UNINSTALL if I don't see something real soon.

BTW, google images shows millions of hits for the P 40 cockpit.  

Teti836
April 25, 2012 6:25 PM

No cockpit ! No money !

canucklehead92
April 25, 2012 6:37 PM

Looks great for what I need!

PilotTyler
April 25, 2012 6:40 PM

the plane is fun and bouncy!!!!

BicyclicKnave1
April 25, 2012 7:16 PM

You think they listen  about  put a cockpit in  NOO NOOO  Its all about the $ money $  very sad   thats why i will stick  with the 2 freebie planes  and  also i dont have to pay for planes  for fs2004  Good luck all watch ur wallet  very disappointed  

s51flyer
April 25, 2012 7:24 PM

MS - you did a nice job on the product, but many of us are just not interested in an aircraft with no VC.  And, while it's been fun, I'm kinda getting a little board with flying around the same islands.  I know it's only been a month, but I think the native's are already getting restless.

Open this thing up, and let's see what it can do....

Radar11x
April 25, 2012 7:38 PM

no cockpit... nuf said

MannedBridge126
April 25, 2012 8:05 PM

Clearly you developers at Microsoft Flight aren't good at research. Either that, or you're just lazy and in a rush to publish your incomplete aircraft to get money from the few people willing to pay for such rubbish. In case you don't know what the cockpit looks like, here is a link from Google instead of Bing: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=p-40+cockpit&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1920&bih=956&wrapid=tlif133539850814410&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=i5CYT-j9DKWPigKcgZm9Dw

PlatoonPapa
April 25, 2012 8:07 PM

Alaska doesn't need a jet and it doesn't need another WWII warbird!  It needs a Huey.

SulfonicLamb4
April 25, 2012 9:16 PM

Thanks fo rthe great looking and control of game the look feature and use of the mouse brilliant and thats from a real world pilot..........however ill re-iterate the views of loads of commentators get with the program 2 year olds play mario bross we dont need want no cockpit planes...please employ any of the above or below comentators they will better serve you than your current PM ..or they have lost touch with reality like the bankers and world governments to much time in the Ferrari not enough time on the ground...get it flight get us flying becouse not all of us can afford the Ferrari.

tishin
April 25, 2012 9:21 PM

@PlatoonPapa

A huey would be cool. I agree with it doesnt need another WWII warbird but I think a jet even a small Lear or Citation would be cool as long as it had a functioning autopilot. I think what they also need to include for Alaska would be the Cessna 180/185 and the Cessna 208 for the proper bush flying. I think for the Charter/heavier cargo flying A C90 would suffice.

tishin
April 25, 2012 9:22 PM

However, unless they have VC I wont be paying.

Robinicus
April 25, 2012 9:35 PM

Not sure how much more you need to hear that cockpits need to be included....but apparently you never heard it with all the posts on the Mustang and the Zero so maybe you will read it here..

Disappointing to say the least....

l VultUx l
April 25, 2012 9:49 PM

Thanks M$ for save my money.

rjcgamer
April 25, 2012 10:09 PM

Ya, I am definitely not planning on purchasing this plane, no cockpit and the other warplanes already have this one beat. What purpose would it serve to buy it? Like many other players I do enjoy having a cockpit view so I can mess with the controls.

Braincase3
April 25, 2012 10:39 PM

In all my years of gaming I have never seen a developer with their heads stuck so far up their rear, that is so oblivious and stubborn as to not even comment about what in the world they are actually trying to accomplish.  Really, what is Flight?  Is is a civil flying game? an arcade style game that would be better suited for a cell phone? or 33% of a combat simulator?  It is like this development crew have never actually created a game before and somehow fooled the investors into actually backing this steaming pile.

It may survive, but honestly I don't see how that can happen if they stick to their flawed "road map".  The only thing that map is guiding them to is a long drop off a steep cliff, destined to be buried with all of those E.T. Atari cartridges.

I am done wishing and hoping, it is time for them to prove they can actually produce a good game.  I understand that they do not owe me anything, although by the same token I purchased what they had available at the beginning and have been poo'd on since.  In that respect, I don't owe them any further attention or money.  It is really frustrating to see so much potential flushed down the toilet because the developer can't seem to get out of their own way.

AlbacoreTunaMan
April 25, 2012 11:41 PM

Look at it this way.

When was the last time you asked MS to enhance a feature in Outlook, or Word? Did they respond in any way?  The MS response for Flight is no different. It's just another MS module.  Unfortunately it's 100% about income.  If it can not justify it's existance, its funding is reduced or cut off.  I don't think enough of us pilot/flyers signed up.  

JLRamen
April 25, 2012 11:48 PM

I thought MS was developing Flight to appeal to beginners, experienced simmers, and real pilots alike. They seem to be catering mostly to kids that just want to fly around aimlessly in external mode. Now I know why it's called MS Flight instead of MS Flight Simulator. I remain hopeful for the Alaska xpac. But I think I'll just go back to FSX for now.

CyclicPainter2
April 26, 2012 12:15 AM

Love the paint job.  Don't have anything else to say though...  Sorry MS.

Yes, JLRamen, Flight is a Game, not a Sim.  To bad to.  MS should be able to balance them both.  Other sims (like il-2 Sturmovik) can.

bepperex
April 26, 2012 12:59 AM

COMING TO THE HANGAR... THE GREATEST FAILURE EVER, REGARDING TO FLIGHT SIMULATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    THIS GAME IS DOOMED TO PLUMMET AS QUICK AS MACH 2. WILL X-PLANE OR MICROSOFT SAVE US SOMEDAY WITH A GOOD SIMULATOR?

UndamagedBow66
April 26, 2012 2:05 AM

no thanks, no cockpit none of my money

shironinja69
April 26, 2012 3:35 AM

Why do you guys even write on here? They obviously aren't listening to anything, anyone is saying. They don't even have the common decency to so much as even try to comment on anything anyone writes. They don't care what we have to say. It's pointless to even try and communicate with these people.

KayFour SE
April 26, 2012 3:50 AM

i'd have to call 'No joy!', no more money from my wallet...

Giom40
April 26, 2012 3:55 AM

Do you MFS guys even read these posts? My goodness, you should!

YearlingImp2999
April 26, 2012 4:35 AM

They want to profit from us, yet Is like we don't exist. totally ignored.

not even a small message to say why they can get a cockpit.

I can only assume is hard to get to make a cockpit, since there is no information or updates.

but not one little post to say anything about is so disrespectful.

is like they are posting updates and news, talking to themselves with their eyes close and covering their ears.

we don't own the game but they are nothing without us the customers.

ICARE 2008
April 26, 2012 4:43 AM

A evidence, MS FLight is not for the simmers ....no cockpit ! Flight is for little babies....

For the true simmers others great " flight simulator "(x-plane,Prepar3d,and so on )

It is to lost your time with your comment here , MS flight developper  ABUSE you!

x Ishmal x
April 26, 2012 4:50 AM

This reminds me of a song by Julio Iglesias. Stumbled again with the same stone.

Dev, you are killing this game.

cuijinbird
April 26, 2012 4:59 AM

After installing Flight for half a month, I totally lost my interest. Nothing real advance or progress after the release.

katargh
April 26, 2012 5:27 AM

It's simply beyond me... recycle bin, it is heading for :(

GurMaster FR
April 26, 2012 5:42 AM

WOW, this plane is ... is ... heuu! crappy

A game for kids? or a false sim? It's the same thing!

Uninstalling soon maybe ... and return on FSX!

We know that DLC with these planes are just the ***! Okay, now where are you going??

It's so complicated to add a moderator to respond to questions from members?? It costs that expensive?? :/

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April 26, 2012 6:57 AM

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RajatRD
April 26, 2012 7:58 AM

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RajatRD
April 26, 2012 8:00 AM

I am having more fun reading and writing comments here, than playing the game!!!

Tony0972
April 26, 2012 8:05 AM

I'm enjoying the P-40.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRhk_bh651U

The #7 paint job matches the one on display here at the Pensacola Naval Aviation Museum. The plane I grew up looking at on display I can now fly. Thank you!

SpecialFXPro
April 26, 2012 8:43 AM

Dont buy it. It will be discounted on Steam next week. Im guessing the DEV team never follows up on their posts. (As if theyre not at computers all day anyway) I am calling for a response (in a new thread or posting) from the Dev team explaining why we should continue to support them when they have not a bit interest in what we as the CONSUMERS want to see in the game, I want to know the timeline for releasing future content and what the content will be exactly, I want Free stuff - Because lets face it, Microsoft can afford to give something away. Especially if from the looks of things they look up pictures on line and thats the end of the research. Finally we want you guys to back up and properly model the planes youre SELLING. If you expect customers to pay for something, You had better build it right.

All in all I dont see how the Dev team manager hasnt been...reprimanded. All of this is either the fault of lazy modellers, or the fault of the Lazy and passive manager above them.

SpecialFXPro
April 26, 2012 8:45 AM

oh, and I will second that:

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SpecialFXPro
April 26, 2012 8:50 AM

Paul, I suppose its Paul at whom we should be directing our irritation.

"◦Paul, Lead Designer: "Between reading comments from users, drinking coffee, going to meetings, and playing Flight and other games, I try to figure out how to get the amazingly awesome flying and aviation movie sequences running in my head into the game.""

Paul, Dont flatter yourself. You dont read these do you?

MiguelRPereira
April 26, 2012 9:33 AM

Even RC pilots (as myself) are leaving spot plane view by literally "entering" into the rc models cockpits.

For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqjepaX_j_4

By the way in the video above, it's a P51 Mustang (and it is inside cockpit view ... but please don't tell MF developers/project managers ...)

Come on devs! Bring us planes with:

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Zatupon
April 26, 2012 9:34 AM

NO COCKPIT - NO MONEY

Thai Socom
April 26, 2012 9:49 AM

Give us a decent plane with:

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cesern
April 26, 2012 10:11 AM

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April 26, 2012 10:20 AM

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TheGoatPump
April 26, 2012 10:32 AM

This is pretty sad really.

There is clearly a lack of investment in this franchise - they're really just doing the bare minimum to create the appearance of a big, engaged development effort creating an evolving game world.

I think the reality is that they are having trouble justifying substantial ongoing development, and they're trying to see if they can get a few bucks where they can without devoting too much time.

It's a shame because there is a lot to like about Flight.. it has some solid ideas. I can't help but think how much better it would be if MS Studios really got behind it.

CyclicPainter2
April 26, 2012 11:21 AM

Sure, why not?

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For me, it will mean back to FlightGear soon.  They have a zero and a P-51 with outstanding cockpits.  No P-40 though.  Oh, and they have guns.  lol.

iiFRIARii
April 26, 2012 11:23 AM

Goodbye Microsoft Flight.  I put about 40 hours into you before realizing you were just a cash cow for Microsoft.  Sadly, I also paid for Hawaii.  :(

HELLO DIABLO 3!

DizzyGhostman
April 26, 2012 11:43 AM

NO COCKPIT,NO MONEY.

TheLastDon
April 26, 2012 12:07 PM

Unbelievable! ANOTHER plane with no cockpit. Seriously, who would buy this crap?! I remember when Microsoft was the best software company out there and they took pride in their work. These days you can clearly see the company has jumped the shark. Everyone got too comfortable working there and you can see the lack of effort that goes into their products. I hope they can reclaim their former glory, but I'm not holding my breathe.

anwak
April 26, 2012 12:48 PM

1st of May: Uninstall day !

fourqtwoBaka
April 26, 2012 12:53 PM

Unbelievable!!!!

You really need to start using your brains a little more, ALOT of people were willing to pay  for aircraft with cockpits.  Im done with flight, maybe sack the monkey in charge and get someone with an IQ larger than a glass of water.

InboundFour953
April 26, 2012 1:00 PM

Signs of Life:

Spent last several hours flying around all Islands (and have in the past) looking. Buzzed most cities and farmland.

All I could find were random stacks smoking, randomly--Barking Sands, two south of Hilo.

Windmills turning.

Parking lots from high look like out of focus cars, but just smudges close up.

Walked around Waikiki at night, looked in windows. Translucent objects, items on walls, desks, etc.

Did one Cache in Kauai, on northwest side, a bay, and parked and walked up to a farmhouse at dawn. Looked in kitchen window and seemed to be someone sitting at table reading, but who knows.

I wish MSF would hide things for us to find, not just caches.

However, overall, I am satisfied with the money I spent at MSF.

SilkiestOcean7
April 26, 2012 1:02 PM

one more time...

H E L L O   M I C R O S O F T   F L I G H T   T E A M

N E E D    A   F O C U S   G R O U P ???

F E E D B A C K   A V A I L A B L E !

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April 26, 2012 1:14 PM

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ICARE 2008
April 26, 2012 1:24 PM

Hello ....Look ....http://www.a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=27817.

ermite59
April 26, 2012 1:56 PM

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April 26, 2012 2:01 PM

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Jctrnacty
April 26, 2012 2:28 PM

I d like to know a simple thing if anyone from Flight team is reading these comments. Because if 90 percents of people want cockpit then i think the sales would be a lot higher.

irritatedmongo
April 26, 2012 3:09 PM

I "flew" Iris' P-40E in FSX last night.  The VC is nice, functional, and not 100% clickable.  Speaking for myself, I'm cool with that.  IL2's P-40's don't have anything clickable at all- you have to assign key/button commands for everything.

Likewise, RoF can sell me a DLC WWI fighter for $8 with a non-clickable VC (again, key/button commands).

I would consider buying these "warbirds" for Flight if they had nice, reasonable VC's, even with limited "clickability," as long as it has basic flight instruments and other functionality at least can be key/button assigned.

And adding a nice, but not overly complex, VC wouldn't preclude folks from "flying" from external views if that's what they prefer (i.e. "spot"/"chase").  I'd think this would allow MS to appeal to a broader audience without exhaustive additional development effort?

But to be candid, classifying an airplane model with a cockpit as "Deluxe" simply lowers the bar.  Since there are other alternatives available, I hope that Flight does not adhere to this product strategy.  

GurMaster FR
April 26, 2012 3:11 PM

Here are some failures after unsuccessful attempts to Flight

and only one winner!  :-/

BIG FAIL - http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7008/flightforkids.png

FAIL - http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6396/flightfail.png

And a WINNER - http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6486/kidscockpit.png

Microsoft, that is pathetic!!!

Continue to SIGN a Petition!  ^^

SloppierTax537
April 26, 2012 3:18 PM

The other day someone mentioned that almost 12,000 people liked MS Flight on the Microsoft facebook.I just checked it out and i now understand why. It says ''Like'' us for more updates on Microsoft Flight.People who clicked on ''like'' therefore were looking for updates .I would suggest that someone opens a facebook page so that we could have the real numbers of the people who actualy like flight.Maybe that way Microsoft would start paying attention.

ermite59
April 26, 2012 3:28 PM

LOL  !!!

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April 26, 2012 3:31 PM

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SloppierTax537
April 26, 2012 3:36 PM

@ CJoke23.....This game needs a lot more than just cockpits....It  needs a new designing team. One that listens. If the FSX designer team is retired I would suggest that Microsoft call them back.Before this game sinks like the Titanic.

Krutan
April 26, 2012 4:10 PM

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April 26, 2012 4:25 PM

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Hawkeye4640
April 26, 2012 4:59 PM

I love this plane, but no cockpit...no dice.

Loved flying this aircraft in Aces over the Pacific, one of my first flying games...even that had a cockpit.

SulfonicLamb4
April 26, 2012 5:10 PM

I now understand why we dont get any follow up from MS flight bosses ,its becouse none of us talk chimpanzee..eeep eeee ahhhh just trying

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April 26, 2012 5:18 PM

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April 26, 2012 5:24 PM

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April 26, 2012 6:51 PM

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Tony0972
April 26, 2012 6:51 PM

:-)

Not everybody is a hater.

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April 26, 2012 7:19 PM

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xESxThePunisher
April 26, 2012 7:31 PM

All I can say is, PA46T MALIBU and C90B KING AIR

Hahaha Flight, good luck trying to get me out of those planes.

even if the cockpitless planes were free I still wouldn't download.

GUCommander
April 26, 2012 7:37 PM

It is extremely disappointing that even after all of the dislike towards the last military plane with no cockpit you would release another military plane....with no cockpit.

Just a clue: Clearly you are pissing a lot of people off. Clearly people (I thought this would be obvious) people want more general aviation planes. CLEARLY people want cockpits. And finally, it's obvious that people want more realism...and yet you continue to make no legitimate updates and you continue to release terrible unrealistic planes.

As a strong supporter of Flight before it was released, I have lost faith.

As I have successfully done in the past, I will be exercising my rights as a microsoft stock holder and I'll bringing your [mis-]management choices to the attention of those higher up.

Your choice to ignore your community in a community driven free-to-play game is just a running joke at this point. Almost every indie developer can get this right and you just fail at this on an epic level.

You are also making ZERO attempt to keep the majority of your player base happy.

Phrogg46
April 26, 2012 8:10 PM

I made the mistake of getting the P51,  not doing it again.  Want my money?  Start putting cockpits in planes.  I can't believe this kind of development.

Honz Hummer
April 26, 2012 8:14 PM

boo u guys are so lame nobody wants a plane with no cockpit

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April 26, 2012 8:17 PM

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April 26, 2012 8:19 PM

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ToriZzle
April 26, 2012 8:21 PM

So much ww2 in a new age game.

I realy hope there will be a aircraft pack with, lets say, 3 planes in it for the same amount of money you want for a single plane.

I love this game, but i wont if i have to be paying hundreds of bucks in the end just to get all the content.

Ps. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TRY TO LISTEN TO ALL THE GOOD CRITICISM YOU GET!! There are some excelent ideas and thoughts in a lot of the comments to the different newsletters.

LUCY ALEC SCOTT
April 26, 2012 8:28 PM

i told you flight team i am geting it but still your not going to get a lot of money or happy players. and most people wont be geting it because of no cockpit. so put cockpits in because we will like it more than its being liked right no. so please read this flight team and the other comments so you can see how unhappy people are right now.

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April 26, 2012 9:29 PM

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hobinm
April 26, 2012 9:39 PM

ok, another incomplete plane!??  why?!! dev's we told you no cockpit = no money period!!

and we as a community should round up the idiots who buy this crap and rough them up repeatedly. so that they know better so that the devs know this is not ok to do in a flight sim arcade or real.

DEVS!!! WE DESPERATELY WANT TO BUY COMPLETE PLANES TO ADD TO A OUR COLLECTIONS!!!! NOT INCOMPLETE ONES!!!  

hobinm
April 26, 2012 9:43 PM

ONE MORE THING!

enough ww2 planes i would like a general aviation plane next time. maybe something like a twin engine plane like a baron beachcraft.

BUT IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A COCKPIT  THEN DON'T BOTHER!

Tracsman
April 26, 2012 10:14 PM

Some one needs to fire the PM and/or team deciding new planes. This is getting beyond stupid. Give us planes that are significantly different, not three single engine tail dragging warbirds. This looks like someones fetish, with zero regard for the customer experience.

This is soon to be a VH-1 special "How to kill a great idea: Microsoft Flight".

irritatedmongo
April 26, 2012 10:41 PM

...But ya know, on the other hand, maybe we're wrong.

Maybe we are the so-called "vocal minority."

So rather than showing off how many "hoops" can be jumped with the MSF Zero, here's a "Counter-Challenge of the Week" to the Lead Dev:  Host a public multiplayer fly-in for the vast, happy, "silent majority" of customers who are delighted with their "Basic" category (no cockpit) warbirds.  Prove us wrong.  Then we'll shut up & go away.

Sound fair?

(No "hate."  Just objectivity.)

guse1955
April 26, 2012 11:14 PM

please when is alaska, need more to do

Chopper1975
April 27, 2012 12:20 AM

It costs less money producing one COMPLETE aircraft then 3 INCOMPLETE ones! and probably it would sell more!  FIRE THE MARKETING LEAD! I bet the serious developers of this game face-palm every time they announce their new goal or Milestone on the Monday morning meetings.

For you, who are applauding the INCOMPLETE aircraft. You clearly are satisfied with a sub-par product.

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April 27, 2012 12:28 AM

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TowerSimulator
April 27, 2012 12:33 AM

@Joshua Howard. You must be a genius. Somehow you have convinced Microsoft that this product will be the next big bread winner for a "dead" franchise. Wow!, the leadership at Microsoft must be really out of touch with reality. The direction this product is headed is total and unquestionably insanity. Surely the bean counters can see this product is failing miserably.  And now with another WWII fighter aircraft for yet still the Hawaiian islands, you people are doing a great job of completely dishonoring and disrepecting the living and dead military men and woman. Did you hire teenagers who ditched history class to come up with this series of aircraft? FLIGHT is going to crash and burn.

CJoke23
April 27, 2012 1:37 AM

no official roadmap, but we now know how long does it takes until we get the next part of useless content with high price:

8 Weeks or Two Month.

Before release I thought there will be a few cheap plane-packs which contains 3 or 5 planes.

Where are the aircrafts from the old versions fsx and fs9? It will not take much time to convert the planes into msflight.

This developing speed is terrible, I think the msflight developing team is a one person job.

Better to come back to msflight in a year or two. Maybe then there is some content to choose from.

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April 27, 2012 1:46 AM

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April 27, 2012 1:47 AM

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April 27, 2012 1:57 AM

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TalkedCypress02
April 27, 2012 4:23 AM

Hello there!

I will appreciate a response to my following question:

The 2 DLCs (Zero and P-40 planes), do they contain any additional missions/Challenges/Jobs in the packages? Or, just the 2 planes to fly around?

Nothing is writen in the descriptions and having downloaded the free preview versions I don't see any locked missions/Challenges/Jobs.

Thanks a lot.

Krutan
April 27, 2012 4:38 AM

If this was Flight Simulator you would get these kind of aircrafts for free.

No cockpit = Free

Has always been, but apparently not anymore.

And don't remove my post again. I know you developers wanna make tons of money out of people who doesn't know how it used to work before Flight.

EastCoastGuy
April 27, 2012 5:54 AM

@ TalkedCypress02

No, there are no additional missions/Challenges/Jobs included with the planes.

TalkedCypress02
April 27, 2012 6:09 AM

@EastCoastGuy

Thanks for your response:)

I don't think that is worth to buy them for just having 2 more planes to fly around for nothing.

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April 27, 2012 6:17 AM

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April 27, 2012 6:43 AM

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C Morla
April 27, 2012 6:47 AM

Hello again, today I download the P-41, sure was assumed to fly in a comfortable if somewhat narrow virtual cockpit, but after buying, surprise does not include vc. In Spain adage says: Blacksmith House, wood knife.

What happens to Microsoft?, Are all on sabbatical year ...

Of course, the fault is ours to follow like lambs. From today announced that I will become a rebel wolf, I refuse to keep spending my "bucks"

I put a lot of illusion in the new Microsoft Flight follow the series from Microsoft 1.0 from the years 1981/82 I enjoyed a lot with Microsof 95 felt the effort to improve and give consumers what these dreamed.

Now times have changed, just about making money and not interested in caring for consumers

Now I am reminded of an old song Good Times Bad Times Led Zeppelin's unforgettable

I think Microsoft is more like Money from Pink Floyd: p

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April 27, 2012 6:48 AM

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SmokeHaddock091
April 27, 2012 6:55 AM

Like what seems to be 99 percent of your correspondents here, and for all of the same reasons, I am very disappointed by Flight. I suppose there are arguments for providing a dumbed down version of FSX, but why eliminate all of that sophistication entirely? FSX lets a user choose levels of difficulty and verisimilitude from a broad range. Why not at least approximate that range in Flight? I doubt that it would bother anybody if Flight offered the option of whatever fun might be available in maneuvering a virtual airplane with a mouse if it also also offered even the approximation of genuine flight already achieved in FSX. Instead even the airplanes that do offer virtual cockpits here don't make complete use of them. I really don't understand why. I hope that some time in the near future someone at Microsoft will reply to this flood of complaint, but the silence to date [and yet another expensive crippled airplane for sale] do not make me very hopeful that anyone much will like what Microsoft might have to say.

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Falcon X83
April 27, 2012 8:36 AM

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guse1955
April 27, 2012 9:45 AM

alaska release date, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FederalPlanet
April 27, 2012 10:02 AM

@EastCoastGuy

I have noticed you respond to direct questions on this thread and on other threads only occasionally. That leads me to assume you may work for, or on behalf of, the MS Flight team. For this assumption, my direct questions are:

1) Are you monitoring these threads and using the criticism in a constructive way?

2) Are you going to publish or release to us (the community/customers) a transparent development plan that details what we can expect and to what level of detail?

3) Will you publish or release a statement that explains if the development path has changed to match consumer demand, and be honest with the market, even if this means a change from the original development plan?

4) With reference to the aircraft and the future of the game, what strategy is being implemented in the short, medium and long term?

Please can you respond to these questions for us all to appreciate what is happening with the progress of this game. A statement which addresses the customers and explicitly states whether the feedback is being acted upon or dismissed to maintain the original development plan would be greatly recieved, irrespective of the individual views or comments posted here.

Thanks

BlamefulPanda11
April 27, 2012 10:21 AM

EastCoastGuy is not connected to FLIGHT, other than being a customer.

BlamefulPanda11
April 27, 2012 10:22 AM

Is anyone else having a hard time staying signed in?

Slick Tonz
April 27, 2012 10:22 AM

@Federalplanet

I sincerely hope we get a reply......really.... but we aren't going to. There have been numerous questions posed, asking from DLC introduction dates, through to just getting the team to say what the airplane pic was that they wanted us to guess - no response.

MethodicColt764
April 27, 2012 10:32 AM

LOL @ FederalPlanet. EastCoastGuy is NOT part of Microsoft....he's a good, experienced player (flown with him many times). Sheesh, he's trying to be helpful because some people have legit questions but the only time you hear something from Microsoft is when someone starts using four-letter words and Delafina has to come around and ban them.

Oh, I don't work for Microsoft either.

thomas2611996
April 27, 2012 11:17 AM

i actually don't think microsoft will ever listen to us. because they are probably receiving enough money from al these school kids who just want to fly around and don't need a cockpit. so why would the put time in virtual cockpits and other cool stuf if it isn't neccasary to sell the planes. i don't think this will ever be a real simulator like fsx.

SloppierTax537
April 27, 2012 11:56 AM

@thomas2611996

Perhaps you re right that Microsoft might be getting from the school kids just enough money to keep flight afloat. But school kids get bored very fast and with all the video games available on the market today, plus the fact that it s not the kids who actualy have the money to buy everything seperatly , I don t think this will last long.Let's not forget that this is a pc game and not a console game. And X Box is not the only game console.Also, from what I see here even the new players who enjoy flight the way it is are getting realy pissed..I think Microsoft will soon regret not paying attention to all the comments and suggestions freely offered to them.I repeat, FREELY OFFERED TO THEM.

Braincase3
April 27, 2012 12:48 PM

It is a shame that the development team is so quiet about things.  I am sure this has to do with the management, poor management of the entire project so far.  If Josh Howard or and other decision making entity values there job they would be wise to change the philosophy of how to handle irate customers.  

Sure, you can argue that this is just a vocal minority.  However, even a minority of users can cause problems for the viability of long term success.  Remember, Flight has to make money, our rants are free and can continue indefinitely.  If you were a potential customer doing some research before parting with your money, would you feel secure in your investment after reading all of this? The direction that they are going can and will hurt them eventually.

They did not have enough content ready at launch to keep people interested and two months later all they have to show for their work is two little more than useless warbirds.  I cannot wrap my head around how someone with a college degree and smart enough to get a leadership position with Microsoft thought that this was a good plan to follow.

I was originally going to buy Alaska as soon as it was ready, however now I am going to see what comments are made before I part with any more money.  I Will not buy an incomplete DLC, this is 2012 and there is no place for half-baked, bargain bin software.  

CyclicPainter2
April 27, 2012 12:51 PM

"Why release these cockpitless planes now!??"

I think I have figured it out.  If you looked at the Marketplace before the P-51, Zero, and P-40, it really did look barren and empty.  I'll bet that MS wanted to just through some cheap things out there to fill up the Marketplace, to make Flight seem 'broken in', so to speak.

Braincase3
April 27, 2012 12:54 PM

If that is what they wanted, they should have had more content ready at launch....  But wait, that would make too much sense; they had to set the par for their mediocrity.

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April 27, 2012 1:07 PM

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AerobicPlacebo4
April 27, 2012 1:18 PM

I would rather take a complete (cockpit included) addon aircraft made by an amateur than an incomplete aircraft made by you "professionals" at Microsoft Flight. If I had this aircraft for Flight Simulator X (for free) and it didn't include a cockpit, I would immediately uninstall it. What makes you morons think I'd buy one? Here is a little advice that you will ignore: Put a cockpit in your aircraft!

RoboRay
April 27, 2012 3:26 PM

"Is anyone else having a hard time staying signed in?"

Yes, I frequently find myself logged out when I return, log in, and get "Get your Gamertag" as the login-info.

Leave and come back later and it's fine.

RoboRay
April 27, 2012 3:28 PM

Oh, and just to be different...

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Flyingdroid
April 27, 2012 3:45 PM

I have been playing it for a month now and all I have to say is: This is an awfully boring game (spend $25 on add-ons thinking it might get better). My friends agree with me.

Who is this game for? Those who are NOT into airplanes/aviation will not spend more than a week and those who ARE will not spend more than a month with it.

I cannot believe somebody is getting paid to come up with a game like this. Glad I am not a Microsoft shareholder!

What happened to Flight Simulator?  

MindEraser88
April 27, 2012 4:17 PM

I bet you that this game is a planned release for xbox 720, and we are just a lowly test market. Mark my words. That is why they dont care.

EastCoastGuy
April 27, 2012 6:45 PM

@ FederalPlanet

Like Panda and Colt said, I'm not connected with MS in any way (cringe) -- I'm just another  customer.

But take a look at the Steam forums for MS Flight.  There's a bit more conversation there.

SilkiestOcean7
April 27, 2012 6:47 PM

This reminds me of a skit on "Laugh In" in the late 1960's...

Lily Tomlin - dressed and acting as a telephone operator...

"One Ringy Dingy..."

"We don't care...

we're the Phone Company"!

SilkiestOcean7
April 27, 2012 7:10 PM

http://msflightforum.myfastforum.org/about152.html

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2642958

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